leaveusalone

Report

To the anti-gay conservatives here: It's time to let you in on the secret: the pro-homosexual liberal elite always win. We run the world: we have the money, we have the education and we have the political (including military) power. The rest of you are only allowed to breed in suburbia and trailer parks. Your approval or disapproval of our actions is both meaningless and irrelevant. You have already lost the game. You can only content yourselves with your petty bigotry, your lack of style, your biblical nonsense and time spent toiling in the insignificant jobs we allow you to undertake. There is no gay or liberal elite agenda. We already pull the strings; we already run the show. So stop wasting time writing comments in newspapers and get back to work or we will increase the material and spiritual poverty in your lives. Best of luck.

March 5, 2010 at 2:40 PM

Texan1

Report

If you oppose Gay Marriage on the premise that the purpose of marriage, and the accompanying benefits, is the raising of children. Then you mist also oppose a heterosexual marriage if thecouple can bot have children. Otherwise you are using the "raising children" issue as an excuse.

March 5, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Texan1

Report

To clarify...Marriage is a Civil Institution which many people view within a religous context. You can get married at City Hall without a preacher. You can be in a "Common Law" marriage as well, which is a passive result of legislation and not the church. If you get married in a church, the licence etc has to be submitted to the state. These are all equally legitimate ways to get married. These options are open to people of faith as well as to people that live a totally secular life. These options are availalbe to people whether or not they can or event want children. What about divorce? Go tell the preacher you're divorced, but the church does not have the power to dissolve a marriage. The state has to do that. If marriage was truly a religous institution then you would not get a divorce. You would go into it knowing it is a sacred comittment that lasts the duration of your lives together (i.e. if you have ever had a divorce, you have to agree that marriage is a secular institution....otherwise you would not have gotten a divorce to begin with). There was a time when our country had to pass a law that stated that black and white people had the right to marry. At that time there were many people who vehemently opposed the action, citing biblibal reference for their beliefs. Were those people right or wrong? I'm not qualified to judge their relationship with their god. But those beliefs were not in alignment with the law of the land. I understand that some people are not in favor of Gay Marriage. I can appreciate that. However, marriage is a civil institution that is enacted, managed and revoked at the discretion of the state. If you are truly, deep in your heart, worried about the institution of marriage, there are many other more productive things you can do... 1) Make Adultery a Felony 2) Put an end to No-Fault Divorce 3) Require that couples receive counseling before a marriage or a divorce. Any of these would cause the institution of marriage to be stronger. They would cause people, as individuals, to be responsible for theie decisions. But it wouldn't make good TV, I guess...

March 4, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Lillyanna

Report

I have an issue with the word Marriage in this law. Marriage is between a man and a woman, truly for the purpose of procreating, and creating a family. I have nothing against same-sex couples who want to have rights and the like, but I want the sacred institution of marriage to stay that way. Don't change the definition of something that was a principle of our founding fathers. This isn't a religious complaint it is a purely social, my belief complaint. And to all you people who say we haven't done your research do some of your own. Read a bible, read the history books. And tell when there was ever marriage between a man and man or a woman and a woman. Because as far as I can tell there never was. Relationships, yes, marriage Never.

March 3, 2010 at 5:34 PM

James

Report

Oh you ignorant religious people. Do at least SOME of your own research before you start spouting the "Marriage is religious" garbage. It doesn't take much Google history of marriage that should educate you quite bit about how the Church eased their way into your minds that it is religious. It wasn't till the 1500's that the Catholic Church decided they wanted documentation filed and really it stayed STILL a civil event until the 1800's. And! In most of the rest of the world (ie where people educate themselves and don't let others think for them TODAY marriage is mostly half religious and half civil. Please educate yourself people so you look a little less ignorant and so you can show some REAL reason why you'd possibly be against gay marriage. Ask yourself AFTER you research should this really be a problem?

March 3, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Curt

Report

As a proud Conservative, to all the gay couples who can now get married in Washington DC I wish you all the best. Family has been the backbone of our great nation, whether it be based in religion or not. As I always tell me children, be honest and proud of who you are. Don't be someone that other people want you to be.

March 3, 2010 at 1:14 PM

No It's Not

Report

Marriage is not a "church issue". I'm an atheist and can get married if I want to. It's about the legal protections that come from the married status. The ceremonies of marriage do not have to happen in a church either. Celebrate your unions however you want, just don't restict others from the protection they deserve as citizens of this nantion.

March 3, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Paladium

Report

Naa. Too many people seem to prefer a country where there are no morals, no ethical principles, anything goes. People can do what ever they want. Total anarchy baby! Every society in history that went down this road ended up collapsing. So the sooner it happens to the U.S. the sooner it can start rebuilding its foundations based on moral, ethical behavior, and reestablish the founding fathers principles and intent which made the country that once-upon-a-time, shining beacon of liberty and justice.

March 3, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Joe

Report

When you are forced to lie about who you are and the way you were born into this world, that`s criminal.

March 3, 2010 at 8:38 AM

Houstonguy

Report

Gay Marriage = Freedom

March 3, 2010 at 8:37 AM

Cody M. Buckmann

Report

Furthermore, to say that a president or bunch of politicians are so supreme that they should decide whether or not an organized religion should recognize gay marriage is the most UNAmerican of beliefs. It is monarchical, dictatorial, or even king-ly; Exactly what this union was founded to keep us away from. People absolutely have the freedom to be with whomever they choose, whether or not they love one another, regardless of their sexes. It is un-American and immoral to not allow somebody to legally leave their belongs and possessions to a loved one once they pass away or to deny a person the right to see their ill lover in the hospital. But, as has already been noted, government should stay out of marriage and divorce issues. And if government should have anything, marriage/civil union licenses should be granted to all legal adults for the purpose of income tax filings and nothing more (and that's already something most of us would rather not allow government to interfere with). www.cinccody.blogspot.com www.twitter.com/CinC_Cody

March 3, 2010 at 3:05 AM

Cody M. Buckmann

Report

Gay marriage is a religious institution. The federal government cannot enact laws for or against religious systems. That is what the "separation of church and state" means; no laws establishing national religions, prohibiting worship, or laws demanding that organized religion can or cannot do or say. Read Thomas Jefferson. As a religious institution, most organized religions will not recognize gay marriage - that's the business of the individual organized religion. Legally, the federal government can enact civil unions. It's the same thing, almost. Civil union laws must be reformed on the basis of civil liberties and equality. But no, the federal government cannot pass a "gay marriage" law forcing organized religion to accept gay marriage as an institution.

March 3, 2010 at 2:52 AM

Rich

Report

Oh get over it already. You cannot tell people who they can and cannot love. If 2 people of the same sex want to be married, they should be able to. No govt. or church has any right to say otherwise. You love who you love. And to deny someone that is just not fair. there are more pressing matters to deal with than this.

March 3, 2010 at 2:26 AM

Blaskinen

Report

Just to set the record straight - gay marriage laws have nothing to do with "marriage" as any couple can have the exact same state-granted rights as a "legal" marriage under a binding contract. Gay marriage laws are about children and parental rights. For example, in Canada, after gay marriage became legal, all laws that pertained to "parents" had to be changed so that "parents" became "legal guardians" . . . in other words, in Canada all children belong to the State and all parent are "given" guardianship of "thier" children by the State. I hope now some of the well intentioned people who think this is OK now see what it is really about.

March 3, 2010 at 2:00 AM

Bunkster

Report

Marriage is between a man and a woman. Period. If same sex couples want the same legal standing, then go petition a court and call it something else. This country was founded by Christians. Our constitution says that you can practice whatever religion you choose and the state won't get involved. Don't take our tolerance of your otherwise hedonistic ways as acceptance. People in this country need to stand up for their values and fight the evil that is being worked in this world in the guise of political correctness and social tolerance. When you stand before your maker, will you be able to look him in the face and say that you rejected gay marriage, or have you already signed up for the facebook app about finding 1,000,000 people that support same sex marriage? I don't care what you do in your home, but don't try to bully me into giving you acceptance or tolerance.

March 3, 2010 at 1:51 AM

Jon

Report

The government should keep their hands out of the people's business and that's exactually what they should be doing with marrage too. If two love each other, they should be married. Love should not have to be Oked by the government.

March 3, 2010 at 1:51 AM

josh

Report

Allowing gay marriage in the United States goes against everything our founding fathers stood for. It should never be allowed in our nation. Let morality prevail !

March 3, 2010 at 1:45 AM

Rob

Report

TJ - You are 100% right on. This is often what happens when govt expands its role. There is always a plausible excuse for why govt needs to act/protect the public/etc. So govt got into marriage licenses to limit the possibility of inbreeding and incest, so it got into the 'license' business, which grew into ramifications in the tax and estate laws. And now, traditional values are under attack, using other govt principles. Classic case of 'camel's nose under the tent.' Roll back Govt!!

March 3, 2010 at 1:17 AM

Jimmy

Report

Marriage is between a man and women. They should only be able to have a state of union. Not a Marriage!!!!!

March 3, 2010 at 1:05 AM

Peter Wolfe

Report

If we hold the belief that church and state are indeed seprate issues and we have checks and balances then the Supreme Court acted within their power. The Supreme Court essentially speaking is for mainly federal issues. I thought you conservatives believed in the 10th admnendment? The states rights and local aarea dispute continues on and on again and again.

March 3, 2010 at 12:34 AM