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Cameras in the Classrooms

October 19, 2009 - 12:19 PM | by: Greg Palkot

London --  Closed circuit cameras are everywhere in the UK, on the streets, outside businesses, inside stores. They're earning the country the label of "Big Brother Britain."

Now they’ve “gone to school”…literally. Not just at front gates, in corridors, and cafeterias, but right in the classroom, sometimes a few at a time!

Nearly 100 schools in the UK have signed up to in-class surveillance efforts using high definition cameras, mikes, and recorders.

The UK company behind the systems says they’re not about 'Big Brother' but helping teachers improve their performance. “We sell it on the basis of professional development,” says “Classwatch”’s Angus Dreever.

Getting even more attention are the camera’s “crime-fighting" abilities. At one high school, for example, in a tough south London area, there are some 100 cameras. Administrators say they are useful in dealing with robberies, vandalism and misbehavior.

The camera marketers admit this is a worthwhile side benefit. Schools say it even helps them police bullying better.

Civil liberties champions, however, say all this goes too far. Anita Coles of the Liberty group saying they don’t think it’s “…ever necessary to be spying on children in a learning environment.”

Teachers are concerned as well. They think the closed circuit or CCTV material could be used against them. “You can always edit those clips,” says John Bangs of the UK Teacher’s union, “as a way of actually victimizing the teacher.”

There are mixed reactions too from parents and kids. Still, reports are, that enough people here like the cameras to have them installed in hundreds more schools.

As for the US, officials at the Chicago national headquarters of the PTA tell us they are not aware of any widespread use of cameras in classrooms, but if the demand is there, Big Brother could come to American schools too!

MomWhoWantsTheBestOutOfAnd4myChild

I'm sorry but I think cameras in the classrooms are a good Idea. Not just to insure students follows rules and regulations, but to insure teachers also follow rules and regulations. I also do not think the teachers should have control of the cameras. Sure give them access to view the footage if needed, but not to be able to change or delete anything. Just think when you make both the students and teachers accountable for their actions maybe the students will get a better education. Not to mention maybe those teachers who don’t have a problem being inappropriate with a minor, will think twice before they physically or mentally damage a child, if their action will be caught on tape.

October 20, 2009 at 10:49 AM
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LH

Excellent idea. As long as the teacher has complete comtrol over the recordings it would be a plus. Most teachers would agree, a lot of instructional time is wasted because of disrespectful and unruly behavior. Having these recordings would bring to the forefront the students in question, so they could be held accountable. Most teachers today are on the defensive whenever a "behavior" problem arises.Students today have to many rights regarding the classroom structure. They are there to learn so should be quiet and respect the teacher as well as other students. Let's try it.

October 20, 2009 at 9:38 AM
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Gene

I'm as concerned about privacy as anyone; but public shools are not private places. There is no right to privacy in a public shool. When teaching math in a public city high school I installed cameras in my classroom. The only students who objected were the those who regularly disrupted class. Look at it this way: The cameras give students the opportunity to be on their best behavior in the classroom. Of course, the best situation would be 100% tuition vouchers for all students. Then if parents don't want cameras in the class room they can choose a school that doesn't have them. That's real freedom and it's what we need to education today.

October 20, 2009 at 8:48 AM
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Tom

I heard the control of the cameras is given to the teacher. If that is the case I wont feel I am being watched but able to manage my class better. I'm good teacher but dont have eyes in the back of my head! Would be great to look back at a good lesson as well. Just so long as i can have control of the system.

October 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM
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www.h1n1virusfacts.com

Maybe the obamaness want to watch more kids sing praises to him,since the public won't!

October 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM
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jack41241 Louisville KY

What's next? Cameras in the toilet stalls? Just imagine the fun of watching that!!

October 19, 2009 at 4:44 PM
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Tyler

I am a teacher in the US and I don't want cameras and mikes in my class. I have nothing to hide, but I don't like the idea of being check on every minute of the day. The kids deserve not to be on there too. It is just creepy. I can see if maybe I was in a dangerous urban crime area or something, but not rural elementaries.

October 19, 2009 at 4:35 PM
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peterb

Good way for our Dear Leader to make sure no counter-revolutionary ideas are promulgated in the classroom.

October 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM
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Street Creature

And just who watches the watchers?

October 19, 2009 at 3:59 PM
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Stephen

Privacy is the issue. The goverment is neither the master nor the parent of the citizen. No one has a right to know my actions. If reason exists to suspect illegal activity, then a citizen may be investigated.

October 19, 2009 at 3:46 PM
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Carmine Wiggins

It's not about hiding something, it's about my child's right NOT to be on someone else's camera! No matter how you slice this it is an invasion of privacy no matter what good, warm and fuzzy intentions the powers-that-be try to sell us. This article mentions they have a school in south London with a bunch of unruly kids...send them home for a month to be with their parents and see if that doesn't straighten them out! Sooner or later we will all need some kind of jaming device just to go to the toilet in a public latrine...this is nuts!!

October 19, 2009 at 3:38 PM
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Sid

I have to agree with Steve. Too often the parents can't believe it's their child that was disruptive, this will either get that child to settle down or prove to the parent their child isn't the angel they thought they had.

October 19, 2009 at 3:36 PM
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Steve

If any of you have ever taught in a City School in the United States you would see this as a way of actually getting some teaching done in a class.

October 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM
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JOHN

this is great, start young, have cameras all the time, then you will have cameras in the home and the thought and niceness police watching you, maybe eventually through your tv set. 1984 is here.

October 19, 2009 at 2:48 PM
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Steve

Being a teacher for over 30 years I feel qualified to get in on this conversation. Since when is a public school classroom private? I would welcome a camera in my classroom, if only to verify what I have done is professional! No more who did what, just roll the tape. Sure helps with discipline!!!!

October 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM
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Mark

Don't have much use for the 4th Amendment any more, eh? But what the heck! The Constitution is worthless these days, anyway! The putrid stench passed off as "Law Enforcement" can't even bother with the illegal alien occupying the office of President. So much for Article II.

October 19, 2009 at 2:27 PM
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BelongstoaNative

Its not about hiding, its about privacy, and our right to it. TOO much can be done to alter a tape to make it show anything. READ GEORGE ORWELLS 1984, and this is where we are headed people!!!! WAKE up and smell the coffee, this is just the begining if we dont stand up for our rights as Americans. If it happens one place it can happen ANYWHERE, DONT LET IT.

October 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM
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JD Vehorn

I think this is an awesome idea that hopefully the US will also implement!! As for those who are against it, why should it bother you if you have nothing to hide??

October 19, 2009 at 1:30 PM
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